Just a few notes from me re: BBI/ADM track.
I submitted a new drum beat loop to MooN ShinE w/ all new percussion b/c after listening to what we were using, at my house on bass-intensive speakers and headphones, it sounded like were playing on kettle drums. So the kick drum will be replaced w/ a Hard-House kick, the popping snare will be claps w/ a clap break, the hats will be a combo of tambs., 707s, and 78s.
The gate is “Deceptor” from Nexus. We scrapped Vanguard b/c it didn’t have enough of a punch.
I’m liking the title MooN ShinE came up w/: “Switch-up.” It’s a work in progress but I’m leaning towards it very much.
I have a feeling we’re going to be in disagreement over a/the bassline…
Strings will be changed, I agree.
There is a saw-ish part throughout the song that I believe needs to be stretched JUST A TAD – I MEAN A FREAKIN’ TAD… It also needs to be layered, made richer, given more beef!! Not melody, just more presence.
Vocals will be Sing, Rap, Sing-Rap(??), repeat. I’ll try to convince them to put in some sort of a bridge type part to make this similar to a club/pop/dance track and less hip-hop – like “Memories.” Although I do believe that “K-talk” just might take care of that..!
MooN ShinE didn’t mention this but this will also be on the “Chamber Waves” album by ADM.
I think we should also discuss how it will appear on albums. Obviously on MooN ShynE’s album or ADM’s album it will be
MooN ShynE – Switch-up feat. ADM, K-Maculate
and
ADM – Switch-up feat. MooN ShynE, K-Maculate
But I can also make it:
ADM – Switch-up feat. BBI
And he can also make it:
BBI – Switch-up feat. ADM
Which brings me to my next point. Since on an album the artist will be the album artist regardless, featuring the others, but AS A SOLO track how should it look:
MooN ShynE, ADM, K-Maculate – Switch-up
or
BBI & ADM – Switch-up
New topic: Going back 2 weeks, we continued work on Project InhalOr.
So picture this, if the song is from your house to the moon, we never made it out the front door… But it will be finished, we just needed motivation – after all it’s a genre neither of us ever worked with and we didn’t know how to attack it.
That’s it for now………
The Club Song Kick Drum (not hip-hop club; David Guetta, i.e.)
Friday, March 12th, 2010So “Switch Up” (the ADM/MooN ShynE/K-Maculate and maybe FoRcE oNe pending audition, for the MsP Roll Call ’10 compilation and ADM’s Chamber Waves album) is almost clear of the alpha stages, and we’re looking to get some more vocals in. One of the most interesting things to me in this particular project is attaining that kick/bass drum that has that familiar hit. Anyone who’s been in a club when they’ve played “Sexy B*tch” by David Guetta, for example, has heard that really hard, bassy kick drum played on every beat of the measure.
It took a while to really figure out what to do to get that particular sound, but I think I’ve pretty much gotten it down.
It consists of three different parts.
1. “K034″ from the Deep/Hard Kicks set (I believe from Modern Beats?)
2. EQ this kick around 150Hz, raising it, with a fairly wide Q,
3. Compress the kick: Threshold = -1.2dB, Ratio: 11.5:1, Gain: 7.0dB, Attack = 23.4 ms, Release = 2205 ms
At the end of that chain, that kick will knock you on your ass. A few alphas before, I had a much higher gain, higher ratio, and faster attack. This one sounds pretty good to me though; a nice pumpy bass sound with a nice kick in the attack.
One thing I have noticed in these songs is that some of them were heavily limited (limited as in the compression effect, not limited as in with a restraint). Thing is, some of the versions I have of these songs are limited so hard that even the vocals sound pumpy from the mix. They obviously all hit very hard, but the mix itself sounds terrible from an overall standpoint.
Hopefully, I’d like to try to get a mix of both worlds; get a good pumpy feel without compromising the rest of the mix. If I can get the bass to pump and still achieve a favorable mix, then I’d say we’ve done a good job. The pump of it all (I guess it’s what gives that fistpumping action) is part of the genre, I feel, and without getting that, I’d be betraying the sound we’re trying to achieve here.
So far, ADM and I have gotten a pretty good track so far, and I’m getting REAL excited about this. We’re looking to work on Sunday to get in some vocals and get this song into the beta stages.
As always, I’ll make sure to keep you guys updated!
-mnshyn
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